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When Saul converted to Paul

Somebody asked me recently what I thought about the “Apostle” “Paul”.


First off, every individual must make his own decisions based upon his own study and preferentially under that guidance of the Holy Spirit, who will lead us into all truth.


I myself have not come to a “conclusion” with regard to “Paul” and do not plan to. Let God be true and every man a liar. I will not condemn the “Apostle Paul”.


On the other hand, I do not study him anymore either. I just found Paul to be a bit confusing, in particular when he talks about “jews” and “Greeks”. (Rom 1.16)


We know that “jews” are Esau, counterfeiting Jacob, when we rightly divide the Word of Truth:


„Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Surely in the fire of my jealousy have I spoken against the residue of the heathen, and against all Idumea, which have appointed my land into their possession with the joy of all their heart, with despiteful minds, to cast it out for a prey.“ (Ezk 36.5)


And of course the Book of Obadiah, which comprises one chapter:


Obadiah’s Vision

1 The vision of Obadiah.

This is what the Sovereign Lord says about Edom—

We have heard a message from the Lord: ... “Rise, let us go against her for battle”—

... 3 The pride of your heart has deceived you, ... you who say to yourself, ‘Who can bring me down to the ground?’ 4 Though you soar like the eagle and make your nest among the stars, from there I will bring you down,” declares the Lord. ... 6 But how Esau will be ransacked, his hidden treasures pillaged! ...

8 “In that day,” declares the Lord, “will I not destroy the wise men of Edom*, those of understanding in the mountains of Esau? 9 Your warriors, Teman*, will be terrified, and everyone in Esau’s mountains will be cut down in the slaughter. 10 Because of the violence against your brother Jacob, you will be covered with shame; you will be destroyed forever. 11 On the day you stood aloof while strangers carried off his wealth and foreigners entered his gates and cast lots for Jerusalem, you were like one of them. 12 You should not gloat over your brother in the day of his misfortune, nor rejoice over the people of Judah in the day of their destruction, nor boast so much in the day of their trouble. 13 You should not march through the gates of my people in the day of their disaster, nor gloat over them in their calamity in the day of their disaster, nor seize their wealth in the day of their disaster. 14 You should not wait at the crossroads to cut down their fugitives, nor hand over their survivors in the day of their trouble.

15 “The day of the Lord is near for all nations. As you have done, it will be done to you; your deeds will return upon your own head. ... 17 But on Mount Zion will be deliverance; it will be holy, and Jacob will possess his inheritance. 18 Jacob will be a fire and Joseph a flame; Esau will be stubble, and they will set him on fire and destroy him. There will be no survivors from Esau.” The Lord has spoken.

... 21 And the kingdom will be the Lord’s.

Esau is „the jew“, there can be no doubt.


So why is Saul, I mean “Paul”, telling us that salvation is for the “jew” first? Esau is condemned.


And what about those “Greeks”? Why are they called “Gentiles” alternatively?


My guess is for confusion. To lead readers of the Bible astray. Away from the truth, which can set you free.


True Hebrews are the Nations, the Gentiles, the Galileans and the tribe of Judah are “Greeks”, (not "jews") because Judah was sold to “Grecia” after captivity. (Joel 3.6)


Maybe Saul – “Paul” – was an alright guy and the lying scribes twisted his words? I do not know.

That Saul was struck “blind” by light(ening) is interesting. Messiah healed blind men to see, Saul was struck blind and saved? Did not Messiah say he was the light and we need eyes to see and ears to hear? Saul´s “conversion” seems strange. This could be, I do not know, but it strikes an odd chord within me.


Most obviously, one could draw a parallel between King Saul and the "Apostle" Saul turned Paul. Both were of the Tribe of Benjamin. Was "Saul´s" conversion a kind of cruel "joke"? We know satan is sadistic and loves to play "funny games".


Other questions come to mind as well when pondering “Paul”. For example, who was there to witness his miraculous “conversion”? Anyone? As a rule, two witnesses are required. Or, were these Saul himself and Messiah? I wonder.


Saul´s testimony somehow just does not ring true. But the church “doctrines” are based upon his writings. And many people prefer the words of Saul over the authority of Messiah Himself.


Moreover, some of Saul´s statements have proved problematic and deadly for scores of believers, in particular this one:


“Hand this man over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved on the day of the Lord.”


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